Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer met behind closed doors with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Monday, the first Western leader to meet Putin directly since Russia invaded Ukraine. In an exclusive interview with NBC, Nehamer said he believed Putin knew what was going on in Ukraine, and he believed he was winning this victory and living in his own world.
Nehamer accepted an exclusive interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” broadcast on Sunday, US time. In an excerpt released on Saturday, Nehamer told regarding his situation when he met Putin and how he felt regarding the meeting; Nehamer Mo said frankly that when the two met, they sat at a long table. The Kremlin required a PCR test at the scene to have physical contact. He did not want to do the test there, so the two did not shake hands, and he did not expect There will be this kind of friendly action.
Nehamer said that Putin had his own logic of war, and Putin felt that this “special military operation” was necessary for reasons of geo-security, the Russian Federation, etc. The Donbas region committed genocide; Putin now lives in his own world, he believes, but he knows well what is happening on Ukrainian soil.
Nehamer pointed out that Putin acknowledged that Western sanctions were a big difficulty for Russia, but he still insisted on the necessity of this action; as for the possibility of using nuclear weapons, Nehamer only said that Putin knew that he might use nuclear weapons. as a tool to threaten the world.
Asked if Putin thought he had won or lost the war, Nehamer replied that Putin believed he was winning the war. Putin neither mentioned the situation nor stated what “victory” meant to him. What kind of situation is it, but Putin clearly stated his concerns. At the end, Putin said to him in German that “it is better to end sooner than later”, which made Nehamer think that Putin actually knew the military situation in Ukraine. Therefore, it is very important to challenge Putin’s view of the war with Western interpretations of the war in Ukraine.
In addition, Nehamer told Putin that Putin had morally lost the war, and all those involved in war crimes must go to court in the future; Putin’s response to war crimes was “will cooperate with international investigations, but a On the one hand he does not trust the Western world, and that will be a problem…”, Nehamer tried to convince him, using Yugoslavia as an example, that international investigations would be useful for prosecuting war criminals.
Regarding Austria’s position of permanent neutrality, Nehamer said that this concept has been deeply rooted in Austria for a long time, but this neutrality is military neutrality, not standing by when it sees a need to lend a hand, and Austria also provides Ukraine with protective equipment , support sanctions, and is willing to assist Ukraine’s reconstruction; Nehamer stressed that Austria has demonstrated the West’s solidarity and support for Ukraine.
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