Three specialists analyzed Javier Milei’s gestures during the interview with Esteban Trebucq

2023-10-27 21:56:00

Looking ahead to the runoff that will define the next president, Javier Miley, candidate of La Libertad Avanza, gave a television interview in which some of his gestures and silences when expressing himself drew attention. He even starred in a awkward moment due to a series of noises that were heard in the studio, where he interrupted one of his answers to ask for silence. The situation generated endless speculation on social media regarding her health.

“Can we ask for it to end?” the murmur behind the camera? It’s very difficult to talk with so many people talking. They are very delicate topics and I see that they do not stop talking, despite my tone changes to ask them implicitly,” the libertarian economist said at one point while looking once more and once more off-screen during the report with journalist Esteban Trebucq on the signal. A24.

The driver asked for silence in the studio and, later, the journalist Carlos Burgueño explained what had happened on his “X” account (ex Twitter): “There was surprise strike of workers and at the time it was taken out there were ten people entering the studio and as many leaving. It’s true that there was noise. That still does not justify the reaction.” Trebucq also said “that she had murmured” and that Milei was right, and apologized despite “disagreeing” with the way she reacted.

“There was murmuring”: Esteban Trebucq explained the reason for the noises that angered Javier Milei

The other section of the note that went viral on social networks corresponds to the question that was asked regarding the support she received from the former candidate for Together for Change, Patricia Bullrichand the former president Mauricio Macri to face in the second round Sergio Massafrom Union for the Homeland.

In his response, he used a strange metaphor regarding meme of a lion and a duck hugging which he posted following the president of the PRO supported him at a press conference. Users also pointed out the pauses he made and some gestures, different from those he usually makes during other interviews or conferences.

“In front of the Bullrich advertisement I posted a meme. I ask a question,Did anyone see the metrics for that tweet?? It has more than 250 thousand likes, it has almost 16 million impressions. Only in my account Instagramthe post has 1 million likes”, he commented. After a pause, she added: “Just as there is a salami or three salami giving their opinion from a computer, you know what? While those look at the lady on the Internet, I am in the middle of your sheets”.

The candidate’s entourage confirmed to this medium that the candidate’s annoyance was due to at that specific moment, which did not allow him to speak without being interrupted. Regarding his health, they stated that “Milei is perfect“and this Sunday he will do a new interview with Luis Majul.

The stress factor

PERFIL communicated with different specialists who analyzed the images of the report and provided their conclusions. Everyone gave their opinion, clarifying there is no attempt or desire to give a diagnosis since for that they must carry out studies and interviews, among other resources.

The doctor Rafael Herrera Milanopsychiatrist expert (MN 127,896), commented that “at first glance, without a deep study of personality, pathognomonic gestures do not impress from any specialty entity.” “Many times the histrionics or verbosity can be accentuated in stressful situations and lead to erroneous interpretations of gestures or tics,” he added, while warning that without a complete study of the individual it is not possible to “reach scientifically founded or categorical conclusions.”

Furthermore, he pointed out: “It is important evaluate the context and situation that the person goes through, that is, it is possible that tics, gestures, tremors and even a change in the cadence of speech will appear. And he stated: “The greater the stressmore possibilities for the body to express, in some way, that it is suffering from it.”

For her part, the doctor in Psychology Guillermina Rizzo (MN. 79901) said that from his place “behaviors are read” and in addition to verbal communication he took into account non-verbal communication (gestures, clothing, tones of voice, etc.). “Javier Milei always had these patterns, now they are exacerbated. According to him DSM – 5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th edition) the traits of the presidential candidate fall into what is known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder“he indicated.

Regarding this disorder, he elaborated: “Generally these people are very intelligent and construct rationalizations and very complex arguments that increases the concept they have of themselves. “There is an exaggeration of their qualities and they rarely take responsibility for their mistakes; they generally blame others whom they label as incompetent.”

“Consequently, They have few collaborators, because there are no people at his height or intellectual level. Has difficulty dealing with those who think differently and tend to have outbursts of anger when they are contradicted; They need to be admired and are sensitive to criticism,” Rizzo explained.

“This disorder is also characterized by variations in mood. The range of repetitive, abrupt facial gesturesinvoluntary and stereotyped have multiple interpretations: stress, nerves, perceiving the environment as a threat and also the consumption of psychotropic drugs,” he added.

Milei’s emotions

Regarding the analysis of gestures, the Director of the Non-Verbal Communication Research Laboratory, Hugo Lescanoconsultant to the Organization of American States (OAS) in Body Language and Negotiation, used the Facial Coding Action System to talk regarding the emotions of the national deputy in the middle of the report and make correlations of behaviors.

What is worrying is the paralanguage: the change of tonality, pauses and gestural rhythms, including verbal pauses that they do not accompany the gestures of manual configuration. Human beings use illustrative gestures with our hands to accompany or emphasize what we are saying, something that here seems to be unfolded. “That is the first wake-up call to indicate that there is something wrong there,” he began by saying.

“There is a gesture that in the facial action coding system is known as the Action Unit No. 14. All asymmetrical gestures carry a burden of burden for the scientific community of human behavior. negative emotions“, he continued. And he added: “In the Truco it would be “The golden 7” o “The 7 of Swords”, that is, it goes to one side or the other, the corner of the mouth retracts. Is a gesture of contempt“.

Regarding the first video, he considered that “what is striking” is not only the gestures, which in many cases she looks slowed down with what he says, “the gestures do not accompany, it is like if there was a delay”.

“The part where it mentions the amount of likes There are two elements that correlate with behaviors seen in pathologies such as schizophrenia or people who are in the process of recovering from addictions or paranoid syndrome. It is not a diagnosis, but a correlation of behaviors“he clarified.

At the moment when the presidential candidate shows his teeth, he analyzed that these are two gestures stipulated in the aforementioned system. “One is the M63, the look up as if there was something to look at. We usually do it when we are remembering or recreating a story. Everyone has their pattern, so it might very well be that Milei is “remembering” in order to respond to the “inventing” to be able to respond.

The second gesture, that of the corners of the lips retracted to both sides, in a kind of horizontal smile, “is called action unit N°20 and corresponds to one of the seven universal basic emotions: fear“.

“Not only the 20th, when it goes so deep we might be facing No. 27, which is that of terror. A person who is in shock. I’m more inclined towards 27, because 20 is a little more subtle: when we’re afraid we don’t show our teeth as much. That expression that Milei makes is from a person who is in shock“, complete.

Regarding the latter, Lescano reported that this gesture was named in 1978 by the American psychologist Paul Ekman, on whom the series “Lie To Me” was inspired, and his partner Wallace Friesen. Ekman is 89 years old, heads the San Francisco Research Department, and has worked a lot on that gesture.

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