The conference for the 60 years of the Democratic Judiciary movement has just ended. Maurizio Gasparri, group leader of Forza Italia in the Senate, speaks. Are we at the zenith of the confrontation between the judiciary and politics? «We are delirious. I have read the contents of the repeated interventions of Santalucia (president of the ANM ed.) who in fact justified the action of the politicized judiciary to contrast the legislative process. Then he should stand up for election.”
There is a long tradition of magistrates in politics…
«They have always sent their vanguards to Parliament. Since the time of Violante, who later converted to the rule of law. And then many others who have alternated in a sort of relay over the years, up to today’s Scarpinato and Cafiero De Raho. It is their right to apply. But today they claim the possibility of interfering… with the particular that they can dispose of the freedom of others”.
The topic of other ordinances on the detention of migrants in Albania also emerged, which should be released today.
«Magistrate Albano speaks the day before, and says that there is a report already written. She assures that she is not involved in the decision…but then who told her? How do you know?”
Furthermore, Santalucia said he “fears” that these new ordinances will reignite the controversy. Do you understand that they will be unfavorable?
«What should I tell her? Nowadays you don’t even need a photocopier, with computers you can copy and paste. The Bologna judge, who sent the decree on safe countries back to the EU Court of Justice, used the same arguments in his ruling that he supported in a conference some time ago, including the passage on Nazi Germany. Copy-paste is in fashion.”
Silvia Albano says that it is the government that seeks conflict and not the judiciary…
«He also said that you don’t have Mao’s “Little Red Book” in your pocket, but the Constitution. I will send you a pair of glasses because evidently you cannot read the part that establishes the separation of powers well.”
Speaking of separation… that of careers?
«It is certainly an essential step, but I don’t think it’s enough. The judiciary must be re-founded, eliminating the presence of political and politicized cells that make political use of justice. Separating careers does not remedy this condition. We must draw the members of the CSM and fight politicization. I attended the screening of the film on Berlinguer and saw the National Anti-Mafia Prosecutor Melillo standing and applauding. Whoever holds these roles must not only observe impartiality, but also demonstrate it.”
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**Interview with Maurizio Gasparri on the Judiciary-Politics Confrontation**
**Editor:** Today we have Maurizio Gasparri, group leader of Forza Italia in the Senate, joining us after the recent conference celebrating 60 years of the Democratic Judiciary movement. Maurizio, thank you for being here.
**Gasparri:** Thank you for having me.
**Editor:** You made quite a statement regarding the relationship between the judiciary and politics. Do you believe we are currently at the peak of this confrontation?
**Gasparri:** Absolutely. What we’re witnessing is concerning. The president of the ANM, Santalucia, seems to be justifying a politicized judiciary that seeks to oppose legislative processes, which I find alarming. If judges want to take such a stance, perhaps they should consider running for office instead.
**Editor:** You mention a longstanding tradition of magistrates entering politics. Could you elaborate on that?
**Gasparri:** Certainly. There’s a historical precedent where judges transitioned into politics, and it has always been their prerogative. From figures like Violante to today’s Scarpinato and Cafiero De Raho, this has been a continuous cycle or “relay.” However, it’s important to note that today’s climate allows for a troubling interference with political freedom.
**Editor:** Shifting gears, there was also mention of new ordinances regarding the detention of migrants in Albania. What are your thoughts on this?
**Gasparri:** There’s a bizarre situation unfolding here. Magistrate Albano discusses a report that’s supposedly already written, claiming she’s not involved in the decision-making process. But who provided her with that information? It raises serious questions about the transparency and integrity of such claims.
**Editor:** Lastly, Santalucia expressed concerns about the impact of these developments. How do you see the future of the judiciary in Italy?
**Gasparri:** If we continue down this path without accountability and respect for the separation of powers, we risk undermining both the judiciary and political processes. It’s time for a real discussion about these boundaries to restore balance.
**Editor:** Thank you, Maurizio. It’s evident that these issues are complex and critical for the future of Italian governance. We appreciate your insights today.
**Gasparri:** Thank you for having me.
