Former leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and former federal minister Fawad Chaudhry PTI and The establishment Expressing his ‘surprise’ at the news of the talks, he termed it as ‘seeking a deal’ and said that if the founder PTI Imran Khan makes a deal with the establishment, what will be the difference between him and Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif? ?
Fawad Chaudhry in an exclusive interview given to Independent Urdu on Tuesday Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf He spoke candidly about his political affairs, Forward Bloc speculation, his political affiliation and relationship with the establishment, among other issues.
On the question related to contact with the establishment, the former federal minister said: ‘What will be the contact with the establishment now? We had a close relationship with them. The attitude they kept with us, tortured us, destroyed politics and prevented us from contesting elections. What will be the relationship after that?’
According to Fawad Chaudhry: ‘It is premature to talk about PTI with the establishment. Talking to them (establishment) on behalf of PTI, one wonders who is giving this kind of advice?’
At the same time, he said that ‘talking to the establishment means that you are looking for a deal. If Imran Khan If they deal with the establishment, what will be the difference between them and Shahbaz Sharif?’
When asked about negotiations with politicians or the establishment, Fawad Chaudhry replied that there should not be negotiations with both. “Negotiations will be successful only when they sit on an equal footing. PTI should only talk to the opposition parties at this time, there should be talks with the government in the second phase.’
Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, while addressing the National Assembly on June 26, invited the opposition, especially the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, to reconciliation and said that they should ‘sit together and talk for the development of the country.’ At the same time, he said that the founder should inform the PTI if there are any problems in the jail, however, the opposition leader and PTI leader Umar Ayub made the talks conditional on the release of Imran Khan and other party leaders and workers. It was stated.
‘Negative and Positive Interference’
PTI has been making statements against international interference in Pakistani politics and internal affairs, while the ruling party This is also being said by the Muslim League-N That PTI has demanded the United States and the international community to intervene in the cases against Imran Khan and the results of the February 8 general elections, due to which a resolution was passed in the US House of Representatives recently.
When Fawad Chaudhry was questioned in this regard, he said that this case is different from the case of cipher. That was the desire of the American establishment, which was against rights. One is negative interference and the other is positive interference.’
When he was asked that ‘Interference is interference. What is apparent interference in the results of any country’s general elections? So the former federal minister said: ‘This is not an intervention. A Pakistani citizen, who believes in the freedom of the individual, has a duty to raise his voice.’
The United Nations Human Rights Working Group on Arbitrary Detention on MondayImran Khan’s arrest is arbitrary and in violation of international law‘Declaring them to be ‘immediately released’ and according to international law, to give them the ‘practicable right to compensation and other remedies due to detention’, however, Federal Minister of Law, Senator Azam Nazir Tarar, in this regard, the government Responding to it, Pakistan’s ‘Internal matter‘ declared.
‘Never left PTI’
Following the arrest of Imran Khan on May 9, 2023, many key PTI leaders left the party, including Fawad Chaudhry, when violent incidents across the country led to a crackdown on those involved. who had announced to leave not only the post of vice president of the party but also politics and later he appeared in the press conference held at the time of the establishment of Jahangir Tareen’s ‘Isthakam Pakistan Party’.
During the interview, when Fawad Chaudhry was asked about returning to PTI, he replied: ‘I will go back when I have left the party. I have never left PTI, I am a part of it.’
However, when asked about joining ‘Isthakam Pakistan Party’ and his presence in the press conference, Fawad Chaudhry recited this poem by Shakir Shujaabadi:
Thank you for being Sienna
Don’t read the simple face, don’t ask the situation
At the same time, he said: ‘What happened in the circumstances, it is in front of everyone. Now the stories have come out, not many stories have come out, which will come later.’
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Fawad Chaudhry, on the critical statements given by PTI leaders regarding his political affiliation, said: ‘People of short stature think that we will grow tall by stopping others. These people think that there should be no one but us.’
He also said that he has met Imran Khan two or three times in jail. According to Fawad Chaudhry: ‘There were also messages from him. He is in touch with the senior leadership of the party.
Fawad Chaudhry regarding the formation of a forward block in Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf said that people with different views form a political party. There are always fights about whether or not someone should join the party or get a position.
Regarding PTI’s active role in the near future, Fawad Chaudhry said: ‘All politics revolves around this political party and Imran Khan. Whenever elections are held again, Imran Khan will represent him.
‘Axed on the foot by cutting off contact with the establishment’
At what point did Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s founding chairman Imran Khan’s relationship with former army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa deteriorate? In response to this question, the former PTI leader said: ‘There was no problem with us. We fell victim to the internal politics of the establishment. We did not have any direct conflict. We didn’t have a big fight.’
He added: ‘The establishment has to understand that you cannot deal with Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif or Benazir Bhutto, people of that stature like Anwarul Haq Kakar, Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Shahbaz Sharif.’
On the question that ‘one of the reasons for the deterioration of relations with General (R) Qamar Javed Bajwa was the removal of the then DGISI General Faiz?’ Fawad Chaudhry replied: ‘There were many cases, including those of General Faiz and (former Punjab Chief Minister) Usman Buzdar, but they are not so important.’
According to Fawad Chaudhry: ‘A big mistake we made was that we ended the contacts under pressure, which should not have been ended. We shot ourselves in the foot by ending good relations with them. There again there was only a lobby against us.’
When asked about the influence of General Faiz and General Bajwa during the PTI regime, Fawad Chaudhry replied that this criticism has been going on for 76 years, not only on PTI. Obviously, the establishment has had a role since then, so now we have to rethink our role.’
On the question about resigning from Parliament, Fawad Chaudhry said: ‘This decision was Imran Khan’s. The reasons for PTI’s public popularity are two decisions, one is to resign from the assemblies and the other is to dissolve the assemblies.
According to Fawad Chaudhry: ‘If we had tried to fight while living in the system, we would not have had our name and mark today.’
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2024-07-04 00:07:11