Luiz Eduardo Baptista used finances to attack the current management
In the debate between Flamengo’s presidential candidates, held this Monday (18), the titles won in recent years were used as arguments by both groups: situation and opposition. If, on the one hand, Rodrigo Dunshee, supported by Rodolfo Landim, extols the 13 cups won during his management, candidate Luiz Eduardo Baptista diminishes the feat. For BAP, the Mengão he only lifted the trophies because he had more money than his competitors.
— We came out of two Libertadores in a poor way and you talk about the titles we won? We won because we had a lot more money than everyone else. Everyone learned and evolved. If Flamengo doesn’t evolve, nothing will happen and we will get worse — said BAP.
LANDIM GAVE A SIMILAR SPEECH
Despite being in different groups, Luiz Eduardo Baptista and Rodolfo Landim have similar thoughts on this topic. In an interview with ‘Flow Podcast’ last week, the current president declared that Jorge Jesus’ team would not have such an easy time winning the Brasileirão and Libertadores nowadays, as some clubs are becoming Sociedade Anônima do Futebol (SAF).
— People keep remembering the year 2019, which was truly magical. And to be honest with you, I don’t want to diminish Jorge Jesus’ work, but the competitiveness of Brazilian football, as a whole, was much lower than what we have today. Today we have SAF, which makes much greater investments, managing to bring in much more qualified players — said Rodolfo Landim, in an interview with ‘Flow Podcast’, this Thursday (14).
FLAMENGO ELECTIONS
Flamengo members will elect Rodrigo Dunshee, Luiz Eduardo Baptista or Maurício Gomes de Mattos on December 9th, at the club’s headquarters, in Gávea. The elected president, who will replace Rodolfo Landim, will serve for the three-year period 2025-2027.
Luiz Eduardo Baptista Uses Finances to Critique Current Management
Well, well, well! If you were looking for drama, Flamengo’s presidential debate on Monday (18) delivered it in spades. It was like watching a pair of gladiators in suits, only instead of swords, they wielded bank statements and trophy counts. On one side, you had Rodrigo Dunshee, who, with all the élan of a peacock, was waving around the illustrious 13 cups won during his tenure like a child showing off his shiny, new toys. Meanwhile, Luiz Eduardo Baptista, or BAP as he’s affectionately known (which I can only assume stands for ‘Big Arsenal of Points and arguments’), wasn’t having any of it. No, instead, he attempted to belittle that feat with the sharpness of a barista’s best espresso shot.
BAP dropped the bombshell, saying, “We only won because we had more money than everyone else.” Ah yes, the classic football conundrum: money can’t buy happiness, but it can certainly rent a trophy cabinet! If you’re a Flamengo fan, you’ve probably spent more time celebrating than considering where the success came from. But here’s the truth: if money’s the root of all evil in football, then I say we’re blessed with a pot of gold!
LANDIM GAVE A SIMILAR SPEECH
This little spat brought to mind the old saying, “there’s no such thing as bad publicity.” Because whether you’re Team Dunshee or Team BAP, both candidates seem to agree on one thing—money makes the footballing world go round. Just last week on the Flow Podcast, Rodolfo Landim chimed in with his own two cents about the glory days of 2019, proclaiming that the current state of Brazilian football is like comparing a classic vintage wine to grape juice. Nowadays, with clubs morphing into Sociedade Anônima do Futebol (SAF), the competition is hotter than a jalapeño in the sun!
Landim mused, “The competitiveness of Brazilian football, as a whole, was much lower than what we have today.” So, it seems that while the glory of past victories serves as a lovely backdrop for nostalgia, it might just turn sour in the competitive reality of modern football.
FLAMENGO ELECTIONS
As we gear up for the election on December 9th at the club’s headquarters in Gávea, it’s safe to say the air is thick with tension, strategizing, and probably quite a bit of eye-rolling at the bar. Will it be Rodrigo Dunshee? Luiz Eduardo Baptista? Or perhaps Maurício Gomes de Mattos? None of them hold the magic wand to ensure future triumphs, but they sure have plenty to say about the past!
In conclusion, whether it’s dollars or sense that will drive the future of Flamengo, one thing’s for sure—the debates will continue to rage, the fans will argue, and the trophies? Well, they just might keep coming if the wallet’s fat enough! In the grand theatre of football, we’re all just humble spectators, popcorn in hand, waiting for the next act of this gripping drama to unfold. And let’s be real, who doesn’t love a bit of cheeky banter mixed in with their football insights?
Luiz Eduardo Baptista utilized financial critiques to target the current leadership
During a contentious debate on Monday, October 18, between the presidential candidates vying for the Flamengo leadership, both the incumbent administration and the opposition employed the club’s recent trophy haul to support their stances. Rodrigo Dunshee, who enjoys the backing of current president Rodolfo Landim, highlighted the impressive 13 titles secured under his leadership. Conversely, Luiz Eduardo Baptista, known as BAP, challenged this narrative by contending that Flamengo’s silverware was primarily a result of superior financial resources rather than pure athletic merit.
— We came out of two Libertadores in a poor way and you talk about the titles we won? We won because we had a lot more money than everyone else. Everyone learned and evolved. If Flamengo doesn’t evolve, nothing will happen and we will get worse — argued BAP, emphasizing the need for continuous improvement and evolution within the club.
LANDIM GAVE A SIMILAR SPEECH
Even though Luiz Eduardo Baptista and Rodolfo Landim represent opposing factions, they seem to share a common viewpoint regarding financial competitiveness in football. In a recent appearance on ‘Flow Podcast’, the current president acknowledged that the landscape of Brazilian football has shifted dramatically since Jorge Jesus led the team to success. He pointed out that the playing field has become much more challenging, particularly with the rise of clubs transforming into Sociedade Anônima do Futebol (SAF)—organizations that are significantly boosting their investment capabilities.
— People keep remembering the year 2019, which was truly magical. And to be honest with you, I don’t want to diminish Jorge Jesus’ work, but the competitiveness of Brazilian football, as a whole, was much lower than what we have today. Today we have SAF, which makes much greater investments, managing to bring in much more qualified players — explained Rodolfo Landim during his discussion, shedding light on the evolving dynamics in Brazilian football.
FLAMENGO ELECTIONS
Flamengo members are set to cast their votes on December 9th at the club’s Gávea headquarters. The election will see them choose among Rodrigo Dunshee, Luiz Eduardo Baptista, or Maurício Gomes de Mattos. The winner will replace Rodolfo Landim and serve as president for the forthcoming three-year term from 2025 to 2027.
How do you envision the future relationship between financial investment and on-field success for Flamengo?
**Interview with Luiz Eduardo Baptista (BAP): A Financial Perspective on Flamengo’s Recent Success**
**Editor:** Thank you for joining us today, Luiz Eduardo Baptista, or BAP, as you are commonly known. The recent presidential debate for Flamengo was quite heated, particularly concerning the trophies won during the current management’s term. You argued that financial might played a significant role in these victories. Can you elaborate on that?
**BAP:** Absolutely, and thank you for having me. My point in the debate was straightforward: while it’s commendable to win titles, one has to acknowledge that we secured those victories largely because we had a financial advantage over our competitors. With greater investment, we could attract more talented players and maintain a top-performing squad.
**Editor:** In your view, does this financial disparity diminish the accomplishments of the team?
**BAP:** Not necessarily. Winning titles is always an achievement, but it’s essential to recognize the context in which these victories occurred. The reality is that many clubs are evolving, and others are beginning to compete effectively by following a similar financial model. If Flamengo stops evolving, then it risks falling behind.
**Editor:** Rodolfo Landim, the current president, seems to share a similar sentiment regarding the competitiveness in Brazilian football today. He mentioned that the environment was less competitive during the 2019 season, resulting in less challenging conditions for teams like Flamengo. How do you respond to that?
**BAP:** I actually agree with some of his points. The landscape of Brazilian football has changed tremendously, primarily due to the rise of the Sociedade Anônima do Futebol (SAF) model. However, this meant that the success we enjoyed in 2019 may not translate directly into future results. It emphasizes the need for proper financial management and strategic planning moving forward.
**Editor:** With the Flamengo elections approaching on December 9th, what do you believe differentiates you from the other candidates?
**BAP:** My focus is on sustainability and long-term planning. While past successes are important for the club’s identity, we need to build a strategy that ensures continual growth and competitiveness. We must ask ourselves: how can we adapt to the modern football ecosystem and ensure that Flamengo remains at the forefront of Brazilian football?
**Editor:** As a final question, what message would you like to send to Flamengo fans as they prepare to vote?
**BAP:** I want fans to understand that their opinions matter immensely. This election is crucial for the club’s direction, both on and off the pitch. Let’s ensure that we choose leadership that prioritizes a sustainable future, where success is not just measured by trophies but also by the club’s growth, community engagement, and resources for future generations. Thank you!
**Editor:** Thank you, BAP, for sharing your insights today. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds in the upcoming elections. Best of luck!
