Many European leaders possess significant experience in navigating the complex dynamics of dealing with President-elect Donald Trump—and that experience has been less than favorable. Given his notorious critiques of both the European Union and NATO, how is Europe bracing itself for his anticipated return to the White House?
A MARTÍNEZ, HOST:
With a track record of policy clashes between Europe and the United States, Donald Trump’s administration has escalated these tensions to unprecedented heights. He has recently asserted that allies often treat the U.S. worse than nations he labels as so-called enemies, which has understandably raised alarms across Europe, with many interpreting his words as a direct reference to European nations and, conversely, to Russia. Consequently, European leaders are preparing for the threat of substantial trade tariffs on their exports. Adding to the apprehension, Trump has stated that Russian President Vladimir Putin should be allowed to, quote, “whatever he wants” regarding NATO allies that spend inadequately on their military. This has brought about considerable unease among European nations.
MARTÍNEZ: Should I gather from this that there wasn’t a celebratory atmosphere in Europe when the final election results were announced?
SCHULTZ: By the time the results came in, it was already well into the morning here, and while many people were indeed drinking, it was certainly not a toast to celebration.
SCHULTZ: The implications of this election will resonate deeply, influencing not only specific policies but also fundamental political dynamics across Europe. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen’s reaction to the election outcome was quite subdued…
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URSULA VON DER LEYEN: Let me take the opportunity to again congratulate Donald J. Trump for his clear victory. I’m looking forward to working with him again to strengthen the transatlantic bond.
SCHULTZ: …Emphasizing her serious concerns that the transatlantic alliance could be facing significant challenges ahead.
MARTÍNEZ: Still, it’s worth noting that Trump does have allies in Europe. Are there any prominent figures who are openly supporting him?
SCHULTZ: While few openly expressed support for him during the election season, there is one notable figure: Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban. His close relationship with Donald Trump stands out, particularly as he is often marginalized among his EU colleagues for policies such as refusing to engage in migration discussions and opposing aid to Ukraine. Orban’s reaction to Trump’s victory was remarkably enthusiastic, as demonstrated in this recording…
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PRIME MINISTER VIKTOR ORBAN: (Through interpreter) They wanted to put him in jail. They wanted to confiscate his assets. They wanted to kill him. And today, he is the president of the United States. And I am always proud to be fighting together with those who are trying to represent people against the elite in power. This is democracy.
SCHULTZ: Notably, Orban celebrated Trump’s success with a toast of vodka, marking his delight at the election’s outcome.
MARTÍNEZ: As you’ve underlined, the ramifications extend far beyond trade and interpersonal relations. The way Trump engages with Russia and Ukraine will have profound implications for European security.
SCHULTZ: Absolutely, that’s the prevailing concern. The potential reduction in aid to Ukraine by Trump and the risk of emboldening Russia are seen as immediate threats to security here in Europe. It’s also apparent that new NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, who enjoys a solid rapport with Trump, is keen to maintain that connection.
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MARK RUTTE: It was really a huge success for him, including capturing the House and the Senate. I look forward to working with him again. When he was president, he was the one in NATO who stimulated us to move over the 2%. I think very much that is his doing, his success, and we need to do more.
SCHULTZ: This degree of flattery may not sit well with some, yet it could very well be a crucial survival strategy for Europeans over the upcoming four years, A.
MARTÍNEZ: That was Teri Schultz reporting from Brussels. Thank you, Teri.
SCHULTZ: You’re welcome.
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**Interview: Navigating Europe’s Response to Trump’s Return**
**Host A MARTÍNEZ:** Good morning. Today, we’re delving into the complex dynamics between Europe and the newly elected President Donald Trump. Joining us is political analyst and European affairs expert, Dr. Clara Schultz. Welcome, Dr. Schultz.
**SCHULTZ:** Thank you, A. It’s great to be here.
**MARTÍNEZ:** Europe certainly seems to be bracing itself for Trump’s return to the White House, especially given his history of incendiary remarks regarding the EU and NATO. How are European leaders responding to the election results?
**SCHULTZ:** Well, A, the atmosphere in Europe is anything but celebratory. Many leaders are expressing deep concern over the implications of Trump’s presidency. European leaders, like Ursula von der Leyen, acknowledge the need to strengthen the transatlantic bond but carry significant reservations about Trump’s approach and previous policy decisions, especially regarding trade and military alliances.
**MARTÍNEZ:** It sounds like there’s a real sense of apprehension among European leaders. Can you elaborate on some specific concerns they might have?
**SCHULTZ:** Sure. Many leaders are worried about potential trade tariffs that could be imposed on European exports. Trump has a track record of putting America first and disregarding the collective interests of NATO allies. His recent comments about letting Putin do “whatever he wants” concerning military spending further exacerbate fears among European nations about their security and the stability of NATO.
**MARTÍNEZ:** Given this context, do you think there was any notable support for Trump within Europe?
**SCHULTZ:** Yes, there are indeed some figures in Europe who openly support Trump. For instance, Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban is a prominent supporter. His enthusiasm for Trump’s election was apparent, especially since he often finds himself at odds with EU policies. While others may tread carefully, Orban’s reaction was to celebrate Trump’s resilience against his political adversaries.
**MARTÍNEZ:** It seems like Orban is quite isolated in that support. How do you think this dynamic will affect the broader EU leadership?
**SCHULTZ:** It highlights a fracture within Europe itself. While many leaders are apprehensive and unified in their concerns about Trump, Orban’s support may embolden far-right factions and populist movements in other EU nations. This could lead to increased internal division within the EU, complicating how they present a united front against any potentially hostile policies from the Trump administration.
**MARTÍNEZ:** Very insightful, Dr. Schultz. As Europe navigates this uncertain landscape, what should we be on the lookout for in the coming months?
**SCHULTZ:** European leaders will likely focus on strategies to mitigate any adverse impacts from Trump’s policies. Watch for strong diplomatic efforts to reinforce alliances among EU members. Additionally, we can expect heightened discussions on issues like trade agreements and military collaboration. The balance between cooperation and navigating tensions will be crucial in the months ahead.
**MARTÍNEZ:** Thank you, Dr. Clara Schultz, for sharing your expertise today. It appears Europe has a challenging path ahead as it adapts to Trump’s return.
**SCHULTZ:** Thank you for having me, A. It will indeed be a rocky journey, but one that will shape the future of transatlantic relations.
**MARTÍNEZ:** Thank you to our listeners for tuning in. Stay informed and prepared as global dynamics shift once again.