During the interview on the television show “Society Mega Hour”, the Minister of Immigration and Asylum initially stated: “On the migration flows in Crete: They come mainly from North Africa. This has been happening for about 2-3 months now. Last year there were very few, this year the number should reach 3000 so far for 2024. They are landed in South Crete, forwarded to North Crete and from there through one of the big ports, Chania or Heraklion, forwarded inland to be recorded and identified and to proceed with their application for asylum”.
What did he say about Germany’s structures and attitude?
Regarding the capacity of the structures, Mr. Panagiotopoulos emphasized: “Currently, the country’s structures accommodate a total of around 22,000. About 60% or so of the total capacity of the entire structure, an increased number certainly compared to what existed 3-4 months ago which was around 50%. The pressure is not the same in all structures. This is because flows are increasing. And the flows are increasing mainly from the southeast Aegean, below that from the Dodecanese region, from the Turkish coast and from Africa. These people do not stay long in the structures because no one comes to stay in Greece. All or at least most of them want to promote themselves in Northern Europe and especially in Germany.”
On Germany’s stance and border controls: “First of all there is political pressure on the Scholz government, the three-party Scholz government, and the problem due to the rise of the extreme right. The far right is not rising by accident. It rises to a number of concerns that occupy German society. One of these concerns, the concerns, is immigration and in fact the German immigration policy for many years which was a policy of roughly open borders. They gathered a lot there, a very generous package of social benefits was given, and somewhere the German citizens started to protest. And this protest was expressed politically with the support of the extreme right. Recently, therefore, the issue of border control has begun and is on the table. And to repeat something important again: They do not close borders. Border controls are intensifying. That is, there is some police presence at land borders when you cross by car. For example, when you enter Germany from the Netherlands, there is a police presence that randomly stops, checks at will, where there were no checks a few months ago.”
As to whether there will be refunds: No. We have ruled this out and we have already discussed it with the Germans, by the way, tomorrow I will go to Luxembourg, where the first inter-ministerial meeting will take place, at least in my term of Ministers, Interior and Immigration of the European Union, where I think these issues will be at the center of the agenda and we have a lot of interesting things to say. Mass returns, then, no, we won’t see. We discussed it, we ruled it out, and it’s also very difficult to impossible to do for two reasons. First, because they are hard to spot. Many who have entered Germany, and it is a large country, have family friends, and to be precise they disappear. This is the word used, and they are very difficult to find when the Authority calls them to return them to the first host country, be it Greece or any country. It is not only Greece. For example the one who had committed the crimes in Solingen and started all this general outcry, if you like, had entered the European Union through Bulgaria. Through Bulgaria, he ended up in Germany. So either they are not identified or the German courts, which are concerned with a more juristic approach until now at least, these, as you understand, change as the socio-political conditions change, they consistently decided that because in Greece social benefits of the same quality are not provided, therefore it was not valid to refunds are made and therefore judicially prohibited the return. I believe this will change sooner or later. We already have a decision in an administrative, regional court of Germany, which changes this fact. He says that yes, the conditions in Greece have improved compared to 2011 when the first decision was made and therefore refunds may also be made.
On the immigration pressure from Lebanon
On the causes of migration flows: There are many causes. Climate is one of them. In some countries, let’s say sub-Saharan Africa, it is impossible to survive, so what can the other do, he sells what he has and what he doesn’t have, he pays traffickers handsomely. Many say, “how do they find the money?”. But if you have made the decision to leave, give up your life and sell everything you have and don’t have, you can find money. Unfortunately there are many circuits. You can only stop them if you stop them at the border and at sea the situation is very difficult, unless you open fire or sink boats or ships, in which case the whole western world will come at you for what you did, despite the fact that now there is a somewhat different overall treatment, more cautious in the cumulative input. So if we ask to suffer this, everything happens, but Greece, so far, did not let people drown in the sea. He captures them and records them. The overall plan is to increase border surveillance as much as you can with means and people. At the land border this is more possible with the fence, the barriers and the greater presence of border guards who are recruited at this time and pushed to the border, army police and so on.
On returns and the migratory pressure we expect from Lebanon: “Returns agreements exist. There is a Europe-Turkey agreement since 2016 on returns, but it has not been implemented by Turkey since 2019 under the pretext of Covid. Question, Turkey’s pressure from here on out, so that it reaches the point of re-implementing the return agreements. War creates refugees. This is unfortunately a law of nature, or rather human nature, so it makes sense to have additional immigration pressure from refugees from Lebanon. In Lebanon I remind you, to look at the numbers, in a country in a bad situation from before, with a total population of 5.5 million people, 2.5 million are already refugees from other wars, mainly from the one in Syria years ago. So in Lebanon right now, with the highest ratio of refugees to normal population in the world and the least ability as a country to manage those numbers, because Lebanon is not in good shape as a state entity, there are currently about 500,000 to 600,000 Syrian refugees. Some have returned to Syria since the start of hostilities with Israel. There are about as many others, Palestinians, there are Iraqis, there are from third countries. Therefore, if an additional immigration, refugee crisis arises, because they will be refugees in the sense of the term, that they are coming from a war zone. Now the question is whether it will be done in an organized way on the basis of an evacuation plan with the supervision and organization of Europe, or whether it will be done in an uncontrolled way, that anyone can. to try to save himself”.
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