2023-04-23 12:03:00
Living in Spain, the journalist and writer Javier Conde establishes a marked difference between national journalism and that of the mother country, where, in his opinion, it is allowed to express “even the unpleasant”, while in Venezuela the ideal of the “heroes” of the country.
–They say that the schools of Social Communication curtail the natural talent of the future communicator…
–I became a journalist despite the communication school in which I studied.
–Would you exclude any subject from the curriculum?
-Theater.
Would you add another?
–Venezuela politics and oil.
–¿Adeco o betancourista?
–Neither one nor the other, but quite the opposite.
–Living in Spain, the difference between the media there
and the Venezuelans?
– Here there is freedom of expression that allows us to say even what is rubbish and unpleasant.
Will social networks end up displacing the media?
traditional?
-I hope not. I work so that the journalism I learned in newsrooms survives.
–After the closure of more than 200 radio stations during this
year in Venezuela, what do you envision?
–That they close the 201.
–On the radio, does the fish die by the mouth?
–On the radio, the fish dies from Conatel’s mouth.
–Would you miss feeling the newsprint?
-I miss it and I’m surprised that I still feel it.
With a closed mouth…
–If you had continued in Venezuela, how would you have faced the
self-censorship?
-I can not say it. It’s a professional secret.
–Is there one in Spain?
–There is talk of freedom of expression because it is scarce.
–An advice to the Venezuelan colleagues to fight censorship?
-The word “colleague” is one of the few that I hate. Zero advice for colleagues.
– What is more withering: censorship or self-censorship?
– Censorship should be prohibited, but it is contained in that constitutional article that says that you can express yourself unless the law says otherwise. Self-censorship can be a defense mechanism.
–And the regulation, is it a sneaky censorship?
–To regulate in journalism is always to limit. There are people who, before coming to the government, saw it that way and then forgot regarding it.
– A recommendation to guarantee the subsistence of the
independent media?
– Be truly independent. What it means to produce the resources to sustain independence.
–The ideal reader?
–The one who reads and is not scared by a long text. That of putting in the articles of the network how long it takes you to read it is an insult to the reader. Now journalism is done for people who don’t want to read, just click.
– A self-criticism as a journalist?
-Just one? Not having turned a “caliche” into a decent text.
–The frustrated receiver?
– A catcher? Now unsatisfied “receivers” abound, to whom they offer an adventure and there is no substance, no fun, no meat.
–A society without free media…
–Venezuela: the ideal of the “heroes” of the homeland.
–If the medium is the message, why should the audience of the Venezuelan official hegemony does not reach 5%?
–I don’t know the data, but it seems to me that “official hegemony” is very boring.
–The most strident sensationalism?
–Maduro’s anti-corruption crusade.
unlimited regulation
Do the private media require a certain amount of regulation?
–The media are already deprived of everything. Parodying Kotepa Delgado, he regulates so that nothing remains.
What is journalistic truth?
– A fucking question. For me the truth is reporting to the bone.
–The lack of communication of the most frequent communication?
–Any message from the regime.
Does checkbook kill ethics?
There is always an exception. Sometimes there is no checkbook big enough.
–How might the user defend his media?
–In a normal society, reading them.
-And vice versa?
-Having own head.
Have you ever been sued?
–Not personally; yes as part of Tal Cual with the famous case “Dear girl”.
And threatened?
–In El Salvador, in 1980. The military government office asked me when I was returning to my country. “Tomorrow,” I told them. And I
I went with fear in my body.
–What would you demand of the Venezuelan State-Government?
–That he resign.
–In which medium is it more difficult to exercise without pressure?
-Exercising in a medium, any, is to withstand internal and external pressures.
–A journalistic nostalgia?
–That the working day ended with the closing of the edition. Tomorrow will be another day. Now the day does not end.
–With Twitter, does the scoop disappear?
-There are more firsts. To everyone’s taste. It doesn’t matter to arrive first, perhaps knowing how to arrive.
–The most reliable ally among all the networks?
-Whoever has the answer, I’m listening. The issuer matters, as always. That he has gained credibility, good sense. Many people are not looking for it.
false species
–How to recognize false news in digital media?
–There are pages specialized in detecting false news and exposing it. But everyone in his field will have their own tools.
–¿And a kind of Cuban G2?
–You just have to follow what happens in Venezuela.
What has reporting lost?
–Street, go places, see things, smell them and count them.
–The news that made you cry?
–I cried only once, when the Sandinistas were defeated by Violeta Chamorro. Lost tears. I found consolation in the book by Sergio Ramírez Bye guys,
–Who should be the star: the journalist or the news?
–The star must be the information. But perhaps the other sells more: the packaging, the decoration, the figuration. Everyone can own their own channel.
– What do you think of vedetism in journalism?
–You have to live with the vedetismo and change the channel or station.
–An advice from a colleague to exercise and not die trying?
–If you take away the word colleague, I would say that the essential thing is to maintain the illusion of telling a good story.
–To the students of Social Communication, so that later they don’t are they disappointed?
“Honestly, I’m not here to give advice. I would only say that journalism is one thing and social communication is another.
–The future of community media in Venezuela?
–Paso.
Would you participate in any of them?
-I’ll pass once more.
–¿Have you cried over the situation in Venezuela?
–No, it makes me angry and I type more. I hope better.
–Closing time for all this?
-There is no closing time.
Profile
Javier Conde (1955) became a journalist in the newsrooms. He entered El Nacional very soon while he was in his second year of Social Communication at Ucab where, along with others, he made a pasquín that was too incendiary for those areas, which revealed his intentions from his name: El Búho Zurdo. Subsequently, he was a professor of journalistic genres for 17 years in that house of studies. In 1980 he traveled as a special envoy to El Salvador to cover incidents at the start of the war. Scholar, intern, reporter, editor-in-chief, director, manager, Conde also worked for El Diario de Caracas, Tal Cual and changed the face of the newspaper 2001. Between 1985 and 1989 he was general secretary of the press union. In 1997 he participated in the founding of the magazine Primicia, of which he was the first editor-in-chief. In recent years, one more in the diaspora, he collaborated with publications of El Espectador in Bogotá, published some texts in Spanish media and returned to a newsroom at El Observador in Montevideo, in the international section. He currently writes for La Gran Aldea, the magazine Túnel del Uruguay and the newspaper Progreso de Galicia.
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