[삶] “Manpower Market” Kim Hong-shin: “The wage of a member of parliament and the wage of a civil servant supervisor are sufficient.”

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“It’s patently silly for members of the Nationwide Meeting to put on badges.”

“It’s unsuitable for legislators to take pleasure in excessive salaries and varied privileges.”

“Create a political reform fee that would come with abolishing privileges however excluding individuals from political events.”

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Kim Hong-shin was interviewed by Yonhap Information Company

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(Seoul = Yonhap Information Company) Senior reporter Yoon Geun-young = “Even now, all members of the Nationwide Meeting put on badges, however all in all, it’s clearly silly. A member of the Nationwide Meeting is a member of the Nationwide Meeting” Provided that she or he conducts his or her actions appropriately, that is As a result of carrying a badge doesn’t make an individual a member of the Nationwide Meeting. Hospitals, and so forth. are all unhealthy practices.

Author Kim Hong-shin (77 years outdated) mentioned this in two interviews with Yonhap Information Company on June 14 and 24.

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“Members of Congress will not be a method of livelihood, however a place of service,” he mentioned. “Members of Congress have ample authority and honorary remuneration, so it is not sensible to take pleasure in privileges with taxpayers.” ‘ cash.

Author Kim mentioned, “The individuals should deprive members of Congress of their privileges,” including, “If the salaries of members of Congress are lowered and their privileges are eradicated, individuals with wonderful talents in varied fields will enter the Nationwide Meeting.”

“To do that, we have to arrange a committee to debate points associated to political reform, such because the tax base, the variety of MPs and constituency points,” he mentioned, including that “we should forestall political events from sending individuals” to the committee. “

1985 Kim Hong-shin’s million-selling “Human Market”

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Kim Hong-shin, who grew up in Nonsan, Chungcheongnam-do in 1947, graduated from the Division of Korean Literature at Konkuk College. In 1976, he made his debut within the month-to-month “Fashionable Literature” with “Sangse” and “Honjeondai”. In 1981, he grew to become well-known with the novel “The Human Market”. This novel is the primary Korean novel to promote greater than 1 million copies, and its last gross sales have reached 5.6 million copies thus far.

Whereas working at broadcast channels corresponding to KBS and MBC from 1981 to the mid-Nineties, he grew to become well-liked for his distinctive talking abilities and humorousness. He has served as a everlasting govt member of the Residents Alliance for Financial Justice (Financial Alliance) since 1991. In 1996, he grew to become a member of the fifteenth Proportional Illustration Congress by means of the United Democratic Celebration. 4 years later, in 2000, he grew to become a proportional consultant member of the Grand Nationwide Celebration.

He ranked first in legislative exercise yearly for eight consecutive years. Specifically, he took the lead in abolishing the privileges of members of Congress almost 30 years in the past and took the lead in enacting the Primary Residing Safety Legislation, the Welfare Legislation for Disabled Individuals, and the Medical Partition Legislation.

After retiring from politics, he printed 10 episodes of the novel “Nice Bohai” in 2007. He continued his writing actions. At present, 138 volumes have been printed, and the 139th quantity shall be printed quickly. I journey nationally and internationally giving lectures on dwell fortunately.

Hongshin Kim’s childhood along with her mom and sister

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– The place is your hometown?

▲ Place of origin: Gongju Metropolis, Chungcheongnam-do. Previously, there weren’t many midwives, and moms would go to their dad and mom’ or husband’s properties when giving beginning. My mom’s hometown is in Yeongdong Metropolis, North Chungcheong Province, so it’s fairly far-off. So, she went to her husband’s home in close by Gongju to present beginning to me. Three to 4 weeks following giving beginning, my mom carried me once more to our dwelling in Nonsan. Since then, I grew up in Nonsan, so my hometown is Nonsan. I’ve three sisters. It’s mentioned that he had six sisters and brothers, however all of them died younger.

-They are saying your father is a grasp carpenter.

▲ To construct a home, carpenters, plasterers, tilers, and so forth. should be mobilized. The particular person chargeable for that is known as a grasp carpenter. Thus far, I am a builder. My father was a grasp carpenter and he was not one to take kindly to his share. It’s mentioned that through the topping-out ceremony, cotton and rice got here on-line, however he gave all the pieces to others and returned empty-handed. When constructing a home, the proprietor will make varied calls for, so if the development value exceeds expectations, you must acquire cash from the proprietor, however my father mentioned he might not try this. I used to be instructed that my father was a person who wished to win the hearts and minds of the individuals and dwell with out the regulation, however my mom complained, “It is arduous to belief and dwell together with your father.”

Kim Hong-shin on the kindergarten commencement ceremony (boy in the midst of the once more row, French priest on the far left)

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——They are saying your mom is a strict particular person.

▲The mom is Wang Guizhu. It means somebody who has a number of obligations. In my reminiscence, my mom needed to handle as many as 10 departments. This is because of superior credibility, arduous work and administration abilities. At the moment, it was a monetary establishment that raised one-time funds or agricultural funds in rural areas. My mom was so strict along with her youngsters that I believed my mom was not their organic mom. He gave me a mop and requested me to comb and mop the room. We nonetheless must fetch water. Though it’s pure for a kid to spill rice on the ground whereas consuming, he’s instructed to clean the dirt-stained rice grains and put them in his mouth. As soon as, my pal and I have been taking part in with a disabled little one close by, and my mom noticed him crying. My mom dragged me to that home and made me say sorry. None of my different associates’ moms did this, however my mom was the one one who requested for it. It did not finish there. He instructed me to whip him once I received dwelling. I believed I used to be going to be overwhelmed, however my mom lifted my skirt as much as my calf and mentioned, “I taught you unsuitable, it’s best to beat me.” At the moment, I hugged my mom and cried, begging her that I had executed one thing unsuitable.

——Is your mom a robust particular person?

▲ My uncle has no son. My household requested me to ship them to an enormous home as adopted youngsters. My father is an effective man, so I am unable to say something. My mom was very pissed off by my father’s habits and insisted, “Even when I die, I am unable to let him go.” That is additionally the explanation why my mom has been hated by her household for a very long time. As soon as, I hit a pal of my very own age close by. That pal is my distant relative. After I known as his identify, he received offended and mentioned I did not name him uncle. A battle broke out and he hit me. The issue is that this child has 4 older brothers and so they got here to beat me. When my mom came upon, she grabbed a mat and dragged me to the elementary faculty playground. I tied my physique to a sycamore tree with a rope, sat cross-legged in entrance of the tree, and commenced to take a seat in protest. There may be nothing extra fascinating than the quiet and boring countryside. Everybody close by got here out. The mom screamed: “Kill my son… kill him in entrance of me.” When individuals tried to cease him, he mentioned: “I’ll have one other son, even when it means being impolite!” At that second, I am dizzy. Though he was younger, he knew the which means of Western high quality. Ultimately, the kid’s dad and mom and his brother got here to him and apologized for his mistake and mentioned they’d by no means do it once more. Solely then was I capable of free myself from the tree. That was an enormous factor taking place in our neighborhood. Since then, the children within the neighborhood have not messed with me anymore.

Kim Hong-shin in highschool

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——You mentioned that following graduating from highschool, you utilized for medical faculty as a substitute of Korean literature.

▲ I attended Gongju Excessive College, which is ranked third in Chungcheongnam-do following Daejeon Excessive College and Gongju School of Training. I studied overseas. Nevertheless, on the finish of his first faculty 12 months, he needed to return to Daejeon Excessive College in his hometown of Nonsan. It’s because the household run by her mom went bankrupt and the household’s monetary state of affairs grew to become tough. At Dajian Excessive College, the writing trainer recommended that I research literature, and the artwork trainer recommended that I research artwork. Nonetheless, my software to medical faculty was based mostly on my dad and mom’ needs. Specifically, my ailing mom strongly wished me to go to medical faculty. I utilized to Catholic medical faculties and was rejected. I reapplied for a 12 months and utilized to the Division of Korean Literature at Konkuk College. I wrote seven quick tales through the faculty entrance examination, so I did not research arduous. On the day the admission listing was introduced, I went to Jianguo College and appeared on the poster, however my identify was not on it. I used to be so pissed off that I even thought-regarding excessive choices. After returning dwelling to Nonsan, I wrote my will in a pocket book, put it on the desk, and went out within the morning. However the unusual factor is that my dad and mom did not come to see me. Ever since my solely son introduced that he was going to die, my mom would frantically seek for me, however there can be no response. After I received dwelling within the night, I discovered that my dad and mom had not even opened a will. He did not wish to look inside my room, so he did not go in in any respect. I wrote a will and ran away from dwelling many instances, however my dad and mom by no means noticed the need.

——Didn’t you find yourself learning within the Division of Korean Literature at Konkuk College?

▲ About ten days later, on a darkish winter evening, the put up workplace supervisor and two staff hurried to my dwelling. After asking if Supervisor Chun was there, he went to my father to apologize and handed my father a yellow envelope. There may be an admission discover inside. After I heard this story, it was mentioned {that a} new put up workplace was being constructed and moved and one of many massive bins containing the mail fell into the gutter. He mentioned there was a yellow envelope inside, however the deal with on the envelope was tough to learn as a result of it was moist. I opened the envelope and located an admission discover from Konkuk College, so I known as varied excessive faculties and eventually confirmed the deal with of a pupil named Kim Hong-shin.

Konkuk College Central Library within the Sixties

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— Did you register immediately at Jianguo College?

▲ No time. The registration deadline is 5pm the following day. That evening, my mom went to a number of homes to borrow cash. That is attainable as a result of she is my mom. The following morning, I took an early practice to Seoul and was capable of enroll within the Accounting Division of Konkuk College.

——Didn’t you say that your identify is just not on the listing of profitable candidates of the poster?

▲ That is a further cross. They mentioned there have been 20 college students within the Korean Division, and my rating was twenty first. For some unknown cause, the 2 profitable candidates did not enroll, so I received in.

——I believe my dad and mom have been comfortable that I went to varsity.

▲ This isn’t the case. My dad and mom requested me why I wished to check Korean literature, and I mentioned I wished to be a novelist. On the time, my dad and mom thought novelists have been gangsters or poor individuals. I grew to become a star as quickly as I entered Konkuk College. It’s because the novel received an award within the Konkuk College newspaper literary competitors. In my senior 12 months, I received an award on the Nationwide School Pupil Tradition and Arts Pageant sponsored by the federal government. After graduating from college, he made his debut with “Fashionable Literature” in 1976 and have become well-known with the novel “The Human Market” in 1981. My dad and mom did not understand this. It’s because nobody in our rural areas reads newspapers. My mother is so pleased with me once I seem on TV.

Kim Hong-shin and his mom attended the college commencement ceremony

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——You’re already well-known as a novelist, however why did you change into politically lively?

▲ I grew to become a star, serving as govt director of the Residents Alliance for Financial Justice since 1991. About 5 years later, Web optimization Kyung-seok, Choi Yeol, Jang Eul-bing, Hong Sung-woo and others requested how lengthy they’d solely engaged in civic actions and requested to have interaction in political actions. Due to this fact, I served as chairman of the Public Relations Committee of the New Reform Celebration, and based mostly on this, I entered the Nationwide Meeting in 1996 as a proportional consultant of the United Democratic Celebration.

——I heard that you simply acquired a whole lot of media consideration as quickly as you grew to become a member of Congress.

▲ Inaugurated as a member of the fifteenth Congress on Could 30, 1996. So, in Could, I solely served as a member of Congress for two days, the thirtieth and thirty first. Nevertheless, one month’s hire has been paid. I believe this is not sensible. I received my tax refund. It was then that I spotted that individuals’s tax cash was being misused.

——I heard that you simply additionally talked regarding the difficulty of medical health insurance premiums.

▲ At the moment, my novel “The Human Market” introduced me a very good revenue. Earlier than turning into a member of the Nationwide Meeting, I paid regarding 80,000 received in Nationwide Well being Insurance coverage premiums, however following turning into a member of the Nationwide Meeting, the quantity was decreased to 40,000 received. This additionally is not sensible. I made cash writing novels, and with the extra taxes, my revenue doubled. So, isn’t it pure for medical health insurance to extend? I request the minister to extend the insurance coverage premium to 160,000 received.

In February 2003, Consultant Kim Hong-shin requested a query within the Nationwide Meeting

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——I’ve served as a member of Congress for 8 years, rating first in legislative actions yearly. What’s the secret?

▲Members of Congress play three essential roles. These are invoice submissions, administrative oversight, and finances settlement. Amongst them, what I’m finest at is submitting payments and supervising administration. It’s not primary by way of the variety of payments filed. I might be in regarding third place. The content material of the invoice acquired a first-place score. I used to be the primary particular person to seem earlier than Congress and the primary particular person to take part in an administrative audit. As a result of I am a proportional consultant, I do not do a lot within the finances space. The Price range and Accounts Committee is usually chaired by the native constituency legislator.

——How did authorities auditing get first place?

▲ A very powerful administrative audit was the audit of presidency affairs. At the moment, virtually all members of Congress typically stored their points confidential. That is to stop the audited group from making ready a response prematurely. I revealed forward of time what I might think regarding. As a result of solely on this manner can the group below investigation be totally ready and keep away from making errors sooner or later. As a result of I precisely understood the main points of the case and had proof, I strongly criticized the audited unit for mendacity throughout the federal government audit. There isn’t any authorized requirement to deal with me in a different way as a result of I’m the pinnacle of a celebration group or native authorities. On the finish of his time period as a member of the Nationwide Meeting, the JoongAng Ilbo introduced that Kim Hong-shin ranked first in legislative actions.

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On April 8, 2024, on the opening ceremony of the Complete Assist Room of the twenty second Nationwide Meeting on the Nationwide Meeting Corridor, officers unveiled 300 MP badges worn by members of the twenty second Nationwide Meeting. [공동취재]

– He’s additionally mentioned to have raised questions on members of Congress carrying badges.

▲ I believe it’s silly for members of Congress to put on badges. In my eight years as a member of Congress, I’ve by no means worn a badge. I received my badge twice in fifteenth and sixteenth technology and donated them each to a fundraiser to assist disabled individuals. The worth of MP badges is just regarding 20,000 received as a result of they’re gold-plated and never gold nuggets, however my badges have been bought at public sale for two million received every. All of this cash is donated to disabled individuals’s organizations. However then, one other badge was found in our room. Lee Hoi-chang, then the president of the Grand Nationwide Celebration, requested me to put on a badge, however I refused. The district councilor who I trusted and relied on and will name him a brother purchased me a badge and gave it to me, telling me to not confront President Lee, however I didn’t put on it both.

— Who spent 2 million received to purchase a 20,000 received badge?

▲ One particular person mentioned that his father didn’t run for Congress many instances, leading to household spoil, so he purchased it to bury his inheritance.

——Most members of Congress nonetheless put on badges. What do you assume is the explanation?

▲ Plainly all, however not most, members of Congress put on badges. It is regarding exhibiting off as an MP. In the event you act as an MP, you’re an MP. In the event you do not do different issues as an MP, you aren’t a citizen. So there isn’t any have to put on a badge.

——I heard that within the eight years you have got been a member of Congress, you have got by no means entered the primary entrance of the Capitol.

▲ At the moment, residents mightn’t enter by means of the primary entrance and will solely enter by means of the facet door. Solely members of Congress can enter by means of the primary entrance. This is not sensible. I believe it’s proper that the general public use the primary entrance and MPs use the facet entrance. So I all the time take the facet entrance.

“Abolition of the privileges of members of the Nationwide Meeting.”

On the followingnoon of Structure Day, July 17, 2023, residents known as for the abolition of the privileges of members of the Nationwide Meeting in entrance of the Nationwide Meeting Constructing in Yeouido, Seoul [연합뉴스 사진]

——What do you consider the annual wage of 157 million received for members of Congress?

▲ Nationwide Meeting is the abbreviation of Nationwide Meeting. Being a member of Congress representing the individuals is just not a job to make a dwelling, however a service job. The phrase “sebi” means to compensate members of Congress for the bills required for his or her actions. Members of Congress should have authority and honor. So, you must surrender all of your privileges. Tax expenditures should even be considerably decreased. I believe the typical wage for public staff is sufficient.

——Does the typical wage of public staff discuss with the wage of managers of central state companies?

▲ The annual wage of members of Congress shall not be greater than the annual wage of cadres of central ministries and commissions. I believe lower than that is sufficient. The respect and energy of a Nationwide Meeting member are equal to tons of of hundreds of thousands of received.

——Jang Ki-pyo, director of the Journalism Coverage Analysis Institute, which leads the motion to abolish the privileges of members of the Nationwide Meeting, mentioned that the month-to-month wage is regarding 4 million received, which is the typical wage of city staff and is sufficient.

▲That’s what I mentioned. I additionally take into consideration 4 million received is sufficient.

——What do you consider the non-arrest and immunity privileges of legislators?

▲ In fact, it should be 100% eradicated as quickly as attainable. It’s because this privilege was solely required during times of dynastic energy. These days, media actions and public info are extra lively. Report retaining and informatization are additionally nicely executed. Solely when the no-arrest privilege is revoked will lawmakers come to their senses. Immunity also needs to be eradicated. Nevertheless, some circumstances require exceptions, corresponding to authorities corruption found throughout a authorities audit or public remarks made throughout a finances settlement.

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——Why can members of Congress fly in KTX preferential rooms and enterprise class without spending a dime, and use airport VIP lounges and VIP parking tons without spending a dime?

▲ After I was a member of Congress, practice tickets to Sinchon have been free. If a congressman pays for an economic system class seat on a airplane, the airline will improve him to enterprise class. When the Chairman of the Standing Committee and different senior officers board the airplane, if the first-class seats are empty, they are going to be upgraded once more.

— Why do airways give members of Congress greater seat lessons?

▲ 100% bribery. If it is not bribery, should not it even be executed to the general public? Atypical residents should accumulate miles to take pleasure in such advantages. It will be a very good factor if members of Congress might interact with residents by flying on KTX or economic system class seats on airplanes. In my case, once I was a member of Congress, I sat subsequent to residents, signed autographs, took pictures, and listened to their complaints. This can be a huge research. After I returned to the legislator’s workplace, there was fairly a bit of labor to assessment, analysis, and translate into coverage with assistants.

Kim Hong-shin was interviewed by Yonhap Information Company

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——Why can members use inside drugs, dental clinics, oriental drugs hospitals, barber retailers, saunas, gyms, and so forth. within the venue without spending a dime? Members of the family of MPs additionally use the hospital within the chamber freed from cost. What do you consider this?

▲ In fact, this doesn’t make sense. These are all state taxes. After I was a member of Congress, I attempted many instances to get rid of this case. I’ve by no means used the Capitol Sauna earlier than. I believe the individuals ought to deprive members of the Nationwide Meeting of those privileges. Members of Congress should publicly declare that they are going to now not be entitled to privileges sooner or later. It’s a unhealthy factor to make use of one thing like this without spending a dime whereas receiving 157 million received in taxes.

——The workplace of a member of Congress is 45 sq. meters per particular person. It’s mentioned that no member of Congress in any nation has such a big area. It’s mentioned that in international locations corresponding to Sweden, three to 4 MPs share an workplace.

▲ It’s unsuitable to extend the per capita space of ​​​​the Nationwide Meeting to 45 sq. meters. This space is far wider than you assume. In the event you have a look at a parliamentarian’s workplace, you will note that there are separate rooms for the parliamentarian and his or her assistant. After I was a member of Congress, I tore down the wall between the member’s room and the aide’s room. So nobody can come to me and foyer me. That is as a result of it is not possible to have one-on-one conferences whereas assistants are watching. The physician’s workplace additionally has a bathe room and bathroom. Throughout authorities inspections, aides would keep up all evening and I might permit aides to bathe within the lavatory/bathe room.

A efficiency calling for the abolition of parliamentary privileges

On the followingnoon of March 10, 2024, members of the Citizen Patriotic Symbiosis Motion carried out a hammer efficiency to destroy the privileges of parliamentarians at a million-million-dollar rally to amend the structure to abolish the privileges of parliamentarians, which was held in entrance of Bosingak Pavilion in Jongno-gu, Seoul. [연합뉴스 사진]

——What do you consider the concept succesful individuals won’t change into members of Congress if they’re poorly paid?

▲Quite the opposite, high-quality abilities enter the Congress. It’s because if an individual places apart cash and privilege and decides to work solely for fame and authority, that particular person will change. Excellent abilities in varied fields corresponding to enterprise specialists, college professors with acknowledged talents, technicians from small and medium-sized enterprises, and fighter manufacturing technicians will change into members of the Nationwide Meeting.

—Why do you assume current members of Congress are additionally silent on the difficulty of their very own privilege?

▲ There are numerous issues you’ll be able to take pleasure in following turning into a member of Congress. So, you are feeling such as you don’t wish to give it up. There are additionally features that forestall them from coming ahead out of worry of hatred from different legislators.

– what do I do?

▲ A committee should be shaped. Separation prices ought to be adjusted right here, and political reform points, corresponding to whether or not to elect major constituencies, also needs to be addressed right here. Nevertheless, political events will not be allowed to ship anybody to the committee. The problem of MPs’ privileges will certainly be resolved. It simply takes time. If this does not work, there shall be huge issues in Korean politics.

(Reporting by intern reporters Lee Endo and Jung Soo-yeon)

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